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And the winner is (insert drum roll) Silent Bob with 4 votes.  The list of participants is:

1 - Dino Zogas
2 - Old Bobd
3 - Silent Bob
4 - Ridfrankg
5 - Vas Dim

Vas Dim got runner up and there was a tie for show.

bob

I think we were all disappointed in "Autumn Jam" and had discussed redoing it in an unofficial capacity.  I always thought there was potential to that song, but aside from Percy's guitar part and Luke's egg shaker, the performances were all pretty raw to say the least.  I think we threw it together in a few days and since everybody had 56k or slower modems at the time, even MP3s were cumbersome.

I have Percy's original guitar part, which he mailed to me on a CD.  What would you guys think about rerecording it as a dedication to the series?  I could redo the bass part, particularly since I recorded it originally with the same bass I have today.

Speaking of which, I ran across this not too long ago while looking for Sub-T related material.  It's a song by Percy Gavronski, a former member here.  It was recorded probably around '97 on a cassette 8-track.  If I remember correctly, he said he had 2x overhead mics I can't remember at the moment and a D112 on the bass drum, submixed to two tracks during the record.  I think he used the D112 for the vocals as well because he only had 3-4 mics and no phantom power on his cassette recorder.  Still though, it's not bad considering how it's a living room performance recorded to less than 1/64" wide tracks traveling at 3.75 In/S an mixed to cassette on top of that.
www.gcmstudio.com/audioonly/p_gavronski_betheone.mp3

Dino,

How high was your overhead mic on the drums?

bob

Around 6ft from the floor if I remember correctly. Perhaps a tad less.


Btw, regarding the OH placement: I know it is not usual to place the mic like I did, usually it comes from behind the drummer and/or is placed quite high but did not have the space or the hardware for this so I had to improvise on the spot [not to mention the untreated ceiling]. I'm sure people don't use this approach for a reason, he he.

Dino, I saw your diagram again, and I think that the overhead being a bi-directional pattern is bringing out the middle of the drums (reducing level on the edges of the kit).  This is why I didn't like the HF boost on the overhead.  I think an omni, where you put it would have sounded better.  Right now you have the equivalent of a mic pointing away from the drums mixed with a mic pointing at the drums.  It gives too much room sound and is rejecting the cymbals.  When I adjust the HF boost so the cymbals sound good, the snare looses body.

Anyway, that's what I hear.

bob

Thanks for the really detailed and insightful response oldbob! A low shelf combined with a more moderate high shelf does work but I guess you have a point there, I too hear the snare lose body on heavy EQ lift [nothing a bit of careful compression can't rectify though]. What is your adjustment for making the cymbals sound good? On your sample I do think the cymbals are too present for my liking but I get your point.

All in all I like the character of the drum sound and I think I can get something really interesting out of it.

Dino, I saw your diagram again, and I think that the overhead being a bi-directional pattern is bringing out the middle of the drums (reducing level on the edges of the kit).  This is why I didn't like the HF boost on the overhead.  I think an omni, where you put it would have sounded better.  Right now you have the equivalent of a mic pointing away from the drums mixed with a mic pointing at the drums.  It gives too much room sound and is rejecting the cymbals.  When I adjust the HF boost so the cymbals sound good, the snare looses body.

Anyway, that's what I hear.

bob